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dpb1298 · **Posted:** Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:39 pm

Does anyone remember what else the Perry's sculpted? I remember there being a forum post that listed some Iron Hills stuff they sculpted, but I can't seem to find it now. I'm curious to know if the new dwarves were done by them, or re-done by someone else. Also I'd like to know if they made Dwarf cavalry to see if Forge World might release them later. Otherwise I'm going for proxies.
Thanks!

polywags · **Posted:** Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:31 pm

The rumors were that the new rule book is coming out in Dec and that there are profiles for "everything cool" from the movies and that everything that gets a profile they want to sculpt. So it sounds like its just a matter of time and approval from the studio. I haven't gotten to see the book though so that's just internet hear say but I've heard that from a few different people now so it seems likely. Who knows on the timeline though. I imagine at least 6 months to a year if we haven't seen any pictures? But again that's just a guess.

Yes they are very expensive but they're very cool and since they're pretty elite units they're more comparable to like metal blisters, which they're actually a little cheaper. Dain is a reasonable chunk more but you'd only ever want one of him and you get the scenic bases too which are worth at least a couple extra bucks. I totally hear everyone on the price but I for one am willing to splurge for these dwarves. I am probably not as interested in the up coming evil stuff so I feel ok getting a solid chunk of dwarves.

dpb1298 · **Posted:** Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:54 pm

The price is way better than I thought it was going to be! No complaints here. I just hope they sell well so more gets made

I just wish I knew if they were going to do the chariot or dwarf cavalry since there are good proxies available now.

polywags · **Posted:** Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:10 pm

I think they are going to do the chariots! Check out some of the news videos and coverage from Andreas but it was my impression they are planning to.

Dikey · **Joined:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:19 am **Posts:** 508

Honestly, I'm kinda disappointed by the bundles. Usually a bundle is more convenient because it allows you to save money, but here the prices are just the prices of the items combined.

Scib · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:50 am

Wasn't going to but pre-ordered 1 of each

Coenus Scaldingus · **Joined:** Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:14 am **Posts:** 1121

They're basically on a policy that every profile needs to have a miniature available, and seeing how the chariot has rules, we'll definitely see it.. at some point. I can't remember having seen any models in the book that haven't been previewed yet, so there is no telling whether any of those figures are (nearly) finished or design has barely started at this stage. Maybe they'll flesh out the full Iron Hills range after the upcoming Gundabad releases, maybe not - although I'd expect some regular command figures soon, to make them playable as a normal force (now you're stuck with Engineer captains as leaders).

Sculpts (and quality of casting) are obviously terrific, although I'll save my money for any Mirkwood things we might see. Wouldn't hesitate to pick up a seperate Dain on foot though, that is a thing of beauty.

thanatos95 · **Joined:** Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:04 am **Posts:** 8

salamanderdan wrote:

chranos wrote:

MacCollac wrote:

So expensive...

Iron Hills Dwarfs are £20 cheaper for 12 than finecast infantry

And £20 more expensive than Warriors of Erebor

I totally agree: thoses prices are insane ! Who can decently spend so much money for what remains plastic minis ?... I really do not understand why prices raised so much since the release of Mirkwood Rangers and Rivendell Knights which were the last minis at a decent price ...

Ghurdil · **Joined:** Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:17 pm **Posts:** 4

thanatos95 wrote:

salamanderdan wrote:

chranos wrote:

{quote} So expensive...{/quote}

Iron Hills Dwarfs are £20 cheaper for 12 than finecast infantry

And £20 more expensive than Warriors of Erebor

I totally agree: thoses prices are insane ! Who can decently spend so much money for what remains plastic minis ?... I really do not understand why prices raised so much since the release of Mirkwood Rangers and Rivendell Knights which were the last minis at a decent price ...

Don't forget Erebors are in plastic, and Iron Hills are in FW resin, that is the difference.

Coenus Scaldingus · **Joined:** Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:14 am **Posts:** 1121

Resin isn't exactly the same material as that of typical 'hard plastic' miniatures - that's like saying iron and silver are identical, as both are metals...

IsleStaggerholm · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:00 pm

I did my part and ordered two sets of each of the releases...now I just can't wait for them to arrive. Perhaps we should have a dwarf painting competition for November!

PowerofWill · **Posted:** Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:02 am

Whoa, how did I miss all this?? Personally, I can't wait to see some more lotr stuff, none of the Hobbit stuff has really caught my eye, to be honest.
Anyway, I'm just glad for the continued support from GW, I honestly thought this hobby was doomed a few years ago.

-PoW

chranos · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:24 pm **Posts:** 257

Been at a convention for a couple of days so I have not had the time to reply to all comments.

ok here goes:

- FW resin is more expensive than plastic yes, but vs finecast the quality is better and cheaper.

- Perry twins sculpted a number of concept miniatures for botfa but these were never released or shown. These new miniatures are sculpted in CAD by the new middle earth team (ballista done in the sculptors free time no less because he enjoyed the miniatures immensely)

- Regarding the Chariot and goat riders
Jay Clare (rules writer) and Adam Troke (Project Manager) has a moniker. "is it cool? is it in the movies?
Rules for every concieveable miniature from Desolation of smaug and Battle of the five armies are in the there and back again book which will cost £35 and along with the laketown house kit (£25) will be available for preorder on the GW WEBSITE and FORGE WORLD site on nov 26th with release Dec 3rd
The rules for goats are cool, chance of knockdown but no damage during charge, the characters riding goats in the movie can take them. So Thorin, Dwalin, Fili and Kili plus Iron Hills Captain.
Chariot is a whopping 100 moria goblins with shields worth with the 4 champions of erebor on it but a lot less with normal iron hills dwarves on it.

There are no new pictures of models we have not already seen in the there and back again book. Gundabad stuff, Iron Hills stuff are there but even though everything else has rules additional laketown characters, gundabad troops, etc etc etc they wanted to get the book out first. We will see the TONS of miniatures released during the next 6-8 months before they take on the next big task that is to make the new Middle-earth SBG rulebook.

-Andreas "the Norwegian Viking"

polywags · **Posted:** Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:57 am

wow thats awesome! Any tidbits for how the chariots work and how many gobos are the goat riders?

Dikey · **Joined:** Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:19 am **Posts:** 508

I guessed right about the knockdown rule!

Regarding prices... The sculptures quality seems better and they are cheaper than their warhammer counterpart, but still more expensive than the hobbit/lotr range, plus no free shipping under 250£, which basically makes them cost 5£ more at the very least, which makes a box of warriors 45£. I do not have a high income, so for me, they are very expensive.

chranos · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:24 pm **Posts:** 257

polywags wrote:

wow thats awesome! Any tidbits for how the chariots work and how many gobos are the goat riders?

how many gobos?

Draugluin · **Posted:** Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:11 pm

chranos wrote:

polywags wrote:

wow thats awesome! Any tidbits for how the chariots work and how many gobos are the goat riders?

how many gobos?

How many goblins.

chranos · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:24 pm **Posts:** 257

oh haha. Don't remember. Sadly I dont have a photographic memory. I would love to have one but then Nick would not have given me a flick trough of the new book.

polywags · **Posted:** Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:52 am

Haha fair enough. I'd bet 17-20? Add a horse to the dwarves then subtract a spear but they have probably mountain climber and knock down rule so maybe more?

Steven bonnar · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:35 pm **Posts:** 95

polywags wrote:

Haha fair enough. I'd bet 17-20? Add a horse to the dwarves then subtract a spear but they have probably mountain climber and knock down rule so maybe more?

my guess-
Hero's+15
Warriors=17=20 as well depending on if the goats count as armoured!

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