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 Post subject: 95% of Painting articles missing from GW's site
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:26 am 
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china. I do not have any of the new bottles( i.e. foundation style) of citadel color paint so I can not check the made in * on those.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:31 pm 
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hm.. i was about to order about 20 paints since i'm missing about 10-12 colours and i'm replacing some of my old paints that are almost over and i stumbled upon this..

any idea how many ml will the new bottles will be?
tbh if the new ones are better quality but -30% in ml I would definitely go with the old ones..
but if the new ones are the same ml and better quality, with a like 0.10 £ increase in price then buying the old ones is not worth it..

argh, i dont know what to do now damn. :(
any chance you got some inside info on the quantity of the new paints? :E

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:50 am 
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but if the new ones are the same ml and better quality, with a like 0.10 £ increase in price then buying the old ones is not worth it.



10p? Ha! More like 50p at least. Who wants to start a pool on how much more expensive any new paint range will be? I say the new price will be £3. :lol:

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Whatevier wrote:
but if the new ones are the same ml and better quality, with a like 0.10 £ increase in price then buying the old ones is not worth it.



10p? Ha! More like 50p at least. Who wants to start a pool on how much more expensive any new paint range will be? I say £3. :lol:


you are probably right.. aargh.. i'll roll a coin in the morning, heads i buy, tails i buy, if it stands upright i wait. :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:58 pm 
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From warseer.......

-144 colours
-lots of renaming of colours, nothing is leaving
-All in different catagories now, Shades (washes), bases, layers, glazes (thin washes) and textures.
-Prices are staying the same !!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, last sentence....out of character for GW as of late.

These are also supposed to be very good quality, from a new manufacturer.

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Jobu wrote:
-Prices are staying the same !!!!!!!!!!!!


Same amount same price? Would be quite a miracle.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:53 pm 
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Thao wrote:
Jobu wrote:
-Prices are staying the same !!!!!!!!!!!!


Same amount same price? Would be quite a miracle.

Indeed. That's pretty much the same thing as one of those un-heard of things at GW, a sale! :shock: :o
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Thao wrote:
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-Prices are staying the same !!!!!!!!!!!!


Same amount same price? Would be quite a miracle.


unfortunately it says nothing about same amount... may be same price but less paint...
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Fenris wrote:
Thao wrote:
Jobu wrote:
-Prices are staying the same !!!!!!!!!!!!


Same amount same price? Would be quite a miracle.


unfortunately it says nothing about same amount... may be same price but less paint...


I thought it sounded too good to be true...

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King Ondoher wrote:
Fenris wrote:
Thao wrote:
Same amount same price? Would be quite a miracle.


unfortunately it says nothing about same amount... may be same price but less paint...


I thought it sounded too good to be true...

Then again, we don't know anything yet, it is rumored that they will be the same cost and we really don't know if they will be the same size or not.......I know it would be wierd for GW to release something that's (supposedly) higher quality for the same price and same size, but you never know. :)

*edit* you can only imbed 3 quotes in each other..... :( :roll:
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Some more clarity on names of ranges.....
this info indicates that the drys are "goopy" paints for drybrushing , which means they may have some kind of sealer in them. The source also stated that the bases are highly pigmented paints "halfway between foundation and current paints", I take this to mean not necessarily the existing foundation paints (so expect color shifts if that is correct). The layers are slightly less pigmented than current paints, sooooo, no adding water LOL. Shades are washes. There are new paints/washes in each range. I do not know what the glaze range is, but I bet it is like an ink glaze that will darken/lighten the entire surface. The textures are rumored to be paints with some kind of solid, like sand, or they are a thick textured putty and are made to be put on the models base.

Realize that I am ripping from peoples posts on other forums, I take no credit for any of this, it has come from dakka dakka and warseer.

BASES
Ceramite White
Averland Sun
Jokaero Orange
Mephiston Red
Khorne Red
Naggaroth Night
Daemonette Hide
Kantor Blue
Macragge Blue
Caledon Sky
Stegadon scale green
Incubi Darkness
Caliban Green
Waaaagh! Flesh
Castellan green
Death world forest
Zandri dust
Steel Legion Drab
Bugmans Glow
Ratskin Flesh
Mournfang brown
XV-88
Rhinox hide
Dryad bark
Mechanicus standard grey
Celestus grey
Abaddon Black (the only black in the range)
Rakarth flesh
The fang
Screamer pink
Leadblecher (metal)
Balthasar Gold (metal)
Screaming Bell (metal)
Warplock brown (metal)




LAYER
White Scar
Yriel Yellow
Flash gitz yellow
Troll slayer orange
Fire dragon bright
Evil sunz scarlet
Wild Rider red
Wazdakka red
Squig Orange
Xereus Purple
Genestealer Purple
Warpfiend Grey
Slaanesh Grey
Alaitoc blue
Hoeth blue
Altdorf guard blue
Calgar blue
Teclis blue
Lothern blue
Sotek green
Temple guard blue
Kabalite green
Sybarite green
Warpstone glow
Moot green
Warboss green
Skarsnik green
Loren Forest
Straken green
Nurgling green
Elysian green
Ogryn camo
Ushabti Bone
Screaming skull
Tallarn sand
Karak stone
Cadian fleshstone
Kislev Flesh
Bestigor flesh
Ungor flesh
Skrag brown
Deathclaw brown
Tau light Ochre
Balor brown
Zamesi brown
Doombull brown
Tuskigor fur
Gorthor Brown
Baneblade Brown
Dawnstone
Administratum grey
Eshin grey
Dark reaper
Thunderhawk blue
Skavenblight dinge
Stormvermin fur
Ulthuan grey
Pallid wych flesh
Russ grey
Fenrisian grey
Pink horror
Emperors Children
Ironbreaker (metal)
Runefang steel (metal)
Gehennas gold(metal)
Auric Armour(metal)
Hashut Copper(metal)
Sycorax Bronze(metal)
Brass Scorpion(metal)
Runelord Brass(metal)


SHADES
Casandora Yellow
Fuegan Orange
Carroburg Crimson
Druchii Violet
Drakenhof Nightshade
Coelia greenshade
Biel-tan green
Athonian camoshade
Seraphim Sepia
Reikland fleshshade
Agrax earthshade (Devlan Mud)
Nuln Oil


DRY
Praxeti White
Hexos palesun
Kindleflame
Lucius Lilac
Etherium blue
Skink blue
Hellion green
Underhive ash
Eldar Flesh
Tyrant Shell
Terminatus stone
Longbeard grey
Changling pink
Necron Compound
Golden Griffon


GLAZE
Lamenters yellow
Waywatcher Green
Guilliman blue
Bloodletter


TEXTURE
Mourn Mountain snow
Stirland Mud
Blackfire Eath
Astrogranite
Armageddon Dust
Lustrian Undergrowth


TECHNICAL
Lahmian Medium
Ard coat
Imperial Primer
Liquid Green stuff

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:39 pm 
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Is it just me, or is that a whole lot more than we have now? It also seems like they are going to have coloured metallics, not just silver and gold/bronze?

Interesting news all in all, thanks for sharing.
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I think it's nearly double the number of paints that we have now. I'm pretty excited about this personally, but I'll probably grab some of my favorite paints from the current range just because.

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I agree about paint-grabbing, who know which of the new paints correspand with whai, if any, existing ones.

ABout the metallics, if you look at the names, they are all different shades of silver, gold, bronze and copper.

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Well, I have no idea if this is true or not, but its a fact that I've been reading rumours online for months about a complete revamp of the paints and colours offered by GW. Wait and see I guess.

I dont mind having lots of paints to choose. Less mixing involved and way more colour consistency if you are painting a whole army, what seems to be the way they are going. From my point of view (and I can be totally wrong!):

Base will be like the current Foundation range, heavy thick stuff with excellent cover;
Layer will be something like the current ones, or even a bit thinner;
Shades will be something like the current washes;
Dry I have no idea, they all look like lighter tones, something you would drybrush as highlight... but is the actual paint any different?
Glazes will be something like the old Inks, and I'm so glad they are back... but only four?
Texture can be anything from pigments (unlikelly) to textured gels or paint. Didnt they used to have textured spray cans? Krylon has some...
Technical is what we are used to, plus the medium. I think this will be the same they had with the uber awesome Heavy Metal set, from which I read some really good things.

The names also suggest quite a bit of Race correlation. I know they always had fancy names, but I find it much more obvious in this list. Will they group paints by race and sell them in sets (a bit like P3 does)?

I'm really curious about this whole change to be honest.

My main questions are...
Will this mean a price increase?
Will the quality be, at least, the same?
Will the pots be any good or the same cheesy ones we have?
Will the current paints find equivalences in the 'new' ones?

I use Vallejo, Andrea and GW paints, and I do love most of GW paints. Mostly I'm changing from GW due to price, the bad quality of their paint pots, and because I can get the other brands more easilly nowadays, but I always found GW paint to be tops and I can only recommend. If this revamp means a whole new "finecast" fenomena though, I'll be done with them in the same minute.

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MacGothmog wrote:
My main questions are...
Will this mean a price increase?
Will the quality be, at least, the same?
Will the pots be any good or the same cheesy ones we have?
Will the current paints find equivalences in the 'new' ones?


From what I've heard, the prices will remain the same, the quality will be the same if not better, the pots will be the same or at least similar, and the current paints will have equivalences in the new paints. I've also heard that there will be a WD released with a conversion chart for the current paints to their equivalents in the new range. These are just rumors though so I have no idea if they're true, it's just what I've heard. I do hope its true, but some better pots would be really nice.

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I think it's nearly double the number of paints that we have now. I'm pretty excited about this personally, but I'll probably grab some of my favorite paints from the current range just because.

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I am also pretty excited, although I have over 60 paints from various makers I love having a choice and the availability to choose the exact shade I am looking for.
If only my wife would accept that I simply do not have enough paint :).

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It looks like it's coming this week, assuming this is what I think it is.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/b ... 900054-gws

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It looks like it's coming this week, assuming this is what I think it is.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wnt/b ... 900054-gws

:D We will finally know for sure....
I have a pot of paint I've had since Christmas, wanting to return it. I hope I still can with the switch.

Random thought, but what happens to all the old paint that's still in stock in the GW's?
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Random thought, but what happens to all the old paint that's still in stock in the GW's?


They sell it...

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