i havn't seen the black guards stats. sorry i over looked that.

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Well fury affects only regular orcs, trackers, warg riers and morannin orcs... so I don´t know if it is such a good idea to include him...

Take Black Guard Captain for an exmaple, he has a bonus when a Nazgyl is on board and alive KINDA TOUGH ONE TOO!!!

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I don't want to sound stubborn but I think the black guard captain isn't really nescesarry as I mentioned earlier. I know the shaman won't affect the uruks but they're probably not going to have to make many courage tests anyway and for standfast the shaman will be passing all courage tests because of fury and thus will keep the guard in line. IDK, maybe I should just swap the nazgul and shaman for something else.



Thanx

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Well who desires "power", who desires "commanding assets". I am more for power...

And it was just an idea... nothing more... Though your army does cost more, money-wise...


I haven´t actually ever played with the Black Guard, cause when fighting against Elves is doesn´t matter whether you have a Black Guard Uruk-Hai or a Morannon orc, the only difference would be the one point of courage and that for 3 pts NAH... not interested...

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Actually, if you were fighting wood elves a MO would need 4+ but a BGoBD would need 3+ and against high elves, MO would need 5+ where as BGoBD would only need 4+. There would only not be a difference against even number defence (so, D6 and D4 most commonly). Maybe I do need a fighty hero but IDK where I should squeeze him in. Maybe swap for the shaman but that would still take off 15pts if I took a BGoBDC.

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- Bertrand Russel

It was just a tough, there are endless ways of using and expandin mordor armies because of it´s variety

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