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I like the looks of the first dwarf, but cannot say I am crazy about the way the second one came out. I do like how the stain has darkened the skin of the dwarves...I think they look more rough and tumble and earthy when their skin isn't so light.

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The painting and conversion of the mahuds is excellent (even though I disagree with the concept). The dipped dwarves - not so sold on that. Dipping seems to be a risky business - there was a lot of discussion on TLA about it for months. I like the idea of using inks to help add definition to a mini, but would rather apply them in a much more controlled, targetted fashion.

Knowing my luck, drowned dwarves would be the result of any dipping experiment.

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Ah, I just noticed my thread got bumped with some new comments. Thanks guys!

@ Sapphire - I'll assume you are referring the skin tone of the Mahûd Warriors. I've been using Reaper Master series paints for my skin tones. If you aren't familar with the Master series they have paints in a "triad" that is a base color and then a highlight color and a shadow color. There are actually three different variations used in my models but the base color is "Dark Highlight" (which is part of the Dark Skin Triad) and "Tanned Shadow" (part of the Tanned Skin Triad). I've just varied the mixtures of these colors to achieve the effects I wanted. I really like the Master series paints for skin tones as they have a whole range of triads from Fair Skin, Tanned Skin, and Dark Skin. I also like the Master series for their browns as they have a lot of natural looking browns - a larger range between Scorched Brown and Kommando Khaki. I use those browns all the time on my earthy models.

@Bilbo and Dorth - I've been doing some more dipping (mostly of Harad figures) and it does a nice job introducing shadows. Also the Miniatures are great for good looking tabletop quality. However, for painting that you want to really excel on, it really is less controlled. I think the models would nice at a close arm's length.

@ Dorth - in terms of control, I've been also experimenting with brushing on the dip as opposed to just straight dipping. The effects have been very promising. Similar to what the new washes seem capable of.

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Finally got around to taking some pictures and updating my blog. Here's a couple WIP photos for some new Haradrim I'm working on for a GamesDay army.

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More photos on my blog.

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Nice to see you painting again Brent those haradrim warriors look really cool, what colours did you use for them?
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Nice work dude, love the bow strings.

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Nice Haradrim! What colours did you use?
I'd like to paint some of mine like this. :D

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Glad you liked the alternative color scheme. Here's a basic run down of the painting. I used a mixture of Citadel Colors and also Reaper Master series paints. I find that Reaper has a better selection of browns and flesh tones.

Skin: Tanned Highlight (Reaper)
Robes/Capes: 50/50 Scorched Brown/Scab Red (same basecoat as my Howdah)
Tunics (and Paints): Leather Brown (Reaper)
Wraps (around legs): Khaki Highlight (Reaper)
Boots: Scorched Brown (Citadel)
Golden Armor: Shining Gold (Citadel)
Spear Shafts/ Bow Shafts: Uniform Brown (Reaper)
Silver Metal: Mithril Silver (Citadel)
Bow Strings: Bleached Bone (Citadel)
Gems: Ultramarine Blue (Citadel)

There is no highlighting on any of these models yet. The shading was all provided by "dipping" using a water based varnish (Old Walnut I think?). Some of the models were dipped straight in and others were brushed on. In retrospect, I like the brushed on versions better.

I still need to in and give them some eyes, clean up some of the faces, and add some highlights, especially to the robes. That and finish the bases. My hope is to get the whole army done by the end of the Holiday weekend here in the US.

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That dipping method is really effective with these warriors, it looks like you have given them at least two highlights! I think the Watchers of Karna could do with a different colour wash rather than brown or perhaps a highlight. Goodluck for this weekend anyway and be sure to take battle notes and photos :)
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An impressive unit!

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lorderkenbrand wrote:
I think the Watchers of Karna could do with a different colour wash rather than brown or perhaps a highlight. Goodluck for this weekend anyway and be sure to take battle notes and photos :)


So the Watchers weren't dipped or washed in brown (except the scabbard). They were painted with the foundation purple color and space wolves grey. I put one, maybe two highlights on the robes and then used the purple Citadel wash. The shading is very effective in person (maybe doesn't come through the photos so well). I might still give them a bit of highlight but they are a lot closer to being finished than the Haradrim.

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The 2 colour schemes you have used look fantastic, all the minis really stand out...like em a lot !!!

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So the Watchers weren't dipped or washed in brown (except the scabbard). They were painted with the foundation purple color and space wolves grey. I put one, maybe two highlights on the robes and then used the purple Citadel wash. The shading is very effective in person (maybe doesn't come through the photos so well). I might still give them a bit of highlight but they are a lot closer to being finished than the Haradrim.


Ah sorry :oops: my mistake, didn't want to sound rude. Im colourblind so don't trust these faulty eyes lol

The other photos are a bit clearer than the one of the Watchers of Karna. Anyway great stuff, looking forward to seeing more :)
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lorderkenbrand wrote:

Ah sorry :oops: my mistake, didn't want to sound rude. Im colourblind so don't trust these faulty eyes lol




No worries, I certainly didn't take it as a rude comment. Trust me, my color blind eyes have plenty of problems too!!

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Nicely done Brent!
The addition of the bow strings is ace, very well executed! The colors are also very striking...all around, very nicely done Brent! :D

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What's this dipping that people keep going on about?


And drat! You're using paints that I don't have!

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Dipping is usually just dipping the painted model into a wood stain to add depth to the paint job. I personally feel it is best used on models that are supposed to be grimy and dirty looking (i.e. Orcs, Uruks), Dwarves are about the only good unit I'd use this method on.

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look really good keep up the good work
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These are about as good as pictures as I could take of this miniature.

Hit me with all your critiques. I'm planning on entering him in the Golden Demon competition at the Chicago Gamesday event. I don't expect to win anything but I am hoping to at least make the first cut this year (ione of my new year's hobby resolutions :D ). Keep in mind this is about a 300% blow-up of the actual miniature.

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Things I know I need to do to finish:
*Add some more basing components.
*Paint Rim (duh!)
*Clean up Facial Tatoos - perhaps add some more patterns to it.
*Look over all the robes and try to get some more blending in.

Please let me know if you see something that looks off or can make suggestions on things I could correct. I'm really happy with the way this miniature turned out but I can always make it better.

Thanks!

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I really like the looks so far Brent, I hope you do well! :D
Maybe you could wash the club and the other bone pieces in a Bleached Bone/Codex Grey wash to add some depth to them.
Good luck with him at Games Day! :D

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