Heroic charge

Jazlotus · **Joined:** Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:23 pm **Posts:** 170

After the dragon has done a shooting attack with his fire breath can he call a heroic charge in the next phase and charge?

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:09 pm

Yes, just like normal archers can.

Jazlotus · **Joined:** Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:23 pm **Posts:** 170

I'm being told by DocDeath that I can't! U know a page number to clear this up?

Stormcrow · **Joined:** Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:02 am **Posts:** 218

The rules on page 42 state that a formation is not permitted to charge if it has made a shooting attack in the shoot phase
The description of a heroic charge, found on p66, simply states that it allows the chosen formation to charge before other models that are making heroic actions. No where does it state that a heroic charge allows a formation that has made a shooting attack to then charge.
As a formation that has made a shooting attack cannot charge, it cannot call a heroic charge.

Stormcrow · **Joined:** Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:02 am **Posts:** 218

Also, Jazlotus may i recomend you make a purchace using the provided link.
It may help you understand the game better.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1870001

D0Cdeath · **Posted:** Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:06 pm

Thanks stormcrow that is exactly what I said!

Jazlotus · **Joined:** Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:23 pm **Posts:** 170

Haha why thankyou guys! I'm still waiting to hear back from Gothmog or ForgottenLore before I'm convinced you 2 are right

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:32 pm

Oh yes, they are right actually, i got confused between heroic move/heroic shoot and heroic shoot/heroic charge because i haven't been seeing many archers recently. The former is ok but the latter is not.

EDIT: But because the rules don't actually say it can't be done, you could potentially argue the reverse.

Jazlotus · **Joined:** Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:23 pm **Posts:** 170

Stormcrow wrote:

Also, Jazlotus may i recomend you make a purchace using the provided link.
It may help you understand the game better.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1870001

Thanx stormcrow for the link! Thought I had the wrong book. Mine says that my Dragon can do anything because it's such a cool looking beast. But I suppose i will play to your rule book!

Leonardis · **Joined:** Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 891

I think you will find he can heroic charge. Pg 58 states under thrown weapons that

A company that makes a shooting attack with thrown weapons may charge in the same turn.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:30 pm

A dragon's fire breath doesn't count as a throwing weapon.

Leonardis · **Joined:** Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 891

Haha! There you go then.... Tis settled!

Xelee · **Posted:** Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:30 pm

I can foresee pitfalls with the Gmtw/FL strategy:
viewtopic.php?f=88&t=21749&start=140 :lol:

ForgottenLore · **Joined:** Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:47 pm **Posts:** 491

Xelee wrote:

I can foresee pitfalls with the Gmtw/FL strategy:
viewtopic.php?f=88&t=21749&start=140 :lol:

But basically, yeah, it is just another shooting attack. I know it took some time for me to get my ahead around the fact that the fire breath worked just like really strong bows (which means it gets something like 9 dice. I know that in my first few games I only rolled a single die for the dragon's breath attack and that is wrong.)

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