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Author:  LordElrond [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:43 pm ]
Post subject:  On the Ground and Surrounded

If the enemy is on the ground and trapped, do you get x4 the attacks?

Author:  Grungehog [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

Simply put NO
but in all fairness if he's on the ground and surrounded he's pretty screwed anyway :)

Author:  LordElrond [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

So you only get x2?

Author:  whafrog [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

Trapped and prone are not cumulative. Most rules aren't, and the exceptions are noted.

Author:  LordElrond [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:47 pm ]
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Also, every time you get a cavalry charge, do you get double the attacks for wounding after you've won the fight?

Author:  Highlordell [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:22 pm ]
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Yes, so +1 to win the fight, then x2 to wound as they are on the floor.

Author:  SouthernDunedain [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

Highlordell wrote:
Yes, so +1 to win the fight, then x2 to wound as they are on the floor.



Where is this +1 to win the fight coming from? :roll:

Author:  LordElrond [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

You get 1 more dice when rolling to win the fight on a cavalry charge

Author:  SouthernDunedain [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

Ok. Just to clarify and make it clear.

Cav (base attack 1) charges 2 attacks
Wins
Knocks down
Roll to Wound with 4 strikes.

Edited to make clearer

Author:  LordElrond [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

No.

For a model with 2 attacks, for example:
Charges (2+1=3) 3 dice to win fight

Wins fight

Knocks down

(2x2=4) wounds with two strikes.



The important thing to remember is that, for each bonus, it is added to the base profile, as the two bonuses are not cumulative

Author:  theavenger001 [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

LordElrond wrote:
No.

For a model with 2 attacks, for example:
Charges (2+1=3) 3 dice to win fight

Wins fight

Knocks down

(2x2=4) wounds with two strikes.



The important thing to remember is that, for each bonus, it is added to the base profile, as the two bonuses are not cumulative


No, this is wrong. If you have a cavalry model with 2 base attacks this is how it goes:

- Charges, gets +1 attack = 3 attacks

- wins fight, knocks opponent/s to the ground

- gets to attack three times. These can all be on the same figure, or on three different figures. Each attack is doubled, as the figure/s are knocked to the ground, for a total of six strikes.

:)

Author:  LordElrond [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

:oops:

Author:  SouthernDunedain [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

Sorry, didnt make my original post clear, Iwas going on a basic cav model with only 1 attack :oops: I'll edit it to make it clearer.

Author:  UNKNOWN [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

so if a character is trapped (stuck in between models and walls, etc...) the player who has him trapped gets to roll two dice against him?

Author:  whafrog [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On the Ground and Surrounded

UNKNOWN wrote:
so if a character is trapped (stuck in between models and walls, etc...) the player who has him trapped gets to roll two dice against him?


Which part of the Fight phase are you referring to? For the Duel, everybody rolls normally. If the model that loses the Duel is trapped, then the opponents back away and get to roll 2 dice to Wound for each attack they have.

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