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How Trapped is "Trapped", heroic moves, and Striking rolls
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Author:  Gene Parmesan [ Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:50 pm ]
Post subject:  How Trapped is "Trapped", heroic moves, and Striking rolls

How trapped does a model have to be to suffer the 'trapped' penalty. I was under the assumption that it had to have no room to back out in any direction, but in the rulebook it seems that if you are pinned from either side but with room to escape 'horizontally' then you are still trapped. Is Balin trapped in any of these situations?

Pinned by both sides
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Pinned against a cliff/obstacle
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Surrounded, but only charged by one
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Also, with regard to striking enemies. Do you have to nominate who you are striking against before you roll? The rulebook only seems to give an example of two enemies with the same defence.

The way we always did it was this: Azog wins the fight. I roll all my dice to strike, see what scores I get - then cross reference the reesults against the enemies defences and see if any are high enough to wound. I gain enough to wound the elf, but not Dwalin. I remove the elf as a casualty.

If not, then say I roll my strikes individually; I nominate Dwalin but don't roll high enough to kill him, but high enough to kill the elf, can I use the roll then to cause a wound on the elf or is it lost?

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Also with regard to heroic moves. We had galadriel declare a heroic move earlier, evil had priority. She moved first. Can she cast magic in that move, or does she have to wait until the move phase. Also if a heroic move is made, can they move again in the move phase in the same turn?

Author:  GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How Trapped is "Trapped", heroic moves, and Striking rol

Balin is trapped in the third picture because he can't back of the full inch, but he is not trapped in the first two because he can back of to the left or right.

You choose who you strike at before you roll, always.

Galadriel can cast magic as part of her Heroic move because she is still in the move phase, she cannot wait until the move phase because if she took part in a heroic move, all her move phase related activity must be carried out then, you cannot move or cast spells in the normal turn if you have taken part in a heroic move, even if you chose not to move in the Heroic move.

Okay?

Author:  Gene Parmesan [ Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How Trapped is "Trapped", heroic moves, and Striking rol

So if I chose to strike dwalin, and dont roll high enough to wound, but do roll enough to wound the elf then it's just too bad- no one suffers a wound?

Author:  Coenus Scaldingus [ Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How Trapped is "Trapped", heroic moves, and Striking rol

Indeed - it's not as if you aim your blow at Dwalin, but it bounces of and ricochets into the Elf, killing that one instead.

Author:  theavenger001 [ Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How Trapped is "Trapped", heroic moves, and Striking rol

That's part of the strategy of the game, judging when it is better to hope for a lucky strike, and when to just try and kill the weaklings as fast as possible.

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