All times are UTC


It is currently Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:30 am



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Swapping Weapon-Types
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:52 am 
Wayfarer
Wayfarer
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:26 pm
Posts: 9
Cheers!
I joined this forum many years ago but was following it quietly until now, so this is actually my first post :oops:

I recently purchased the "Pellenor Box" (finally) and already read through the rule book several times. Overall, I'm quite fond of the new rules (it totally made up for "the mess" that the Hobbit book felt like to me) but there's one tingeling question, I can't find an answer to:

It's regarding the "swapping weapons"-rule. In my german rule book it states on page 86 (so probabaly some/many pages earlier in the english version), something like "you may have changed the weapons of some models, they were delivered with, maybe because of aesthetic reasons, maybe because you wanted an advantage at the game"[...]"swapping a kind of weapon from the following list [list of different kinds of weapons] for another one of the same kind (one-handed, two-handed, ect.) costs 1 point extra".

I'm totally unsure, what they mean by that (but maybe it's just bad german translation and clearer in the english version). Does it mean

a) When you change the weapon of the original model GW produced, you have to pay +1 point, no matter what?

b) When you give the model a weapon, that's not originally an option in its profile, you pay +1 point?

E.g. an army of Rohan: Infantry may have swords or axes as handweapons. Let's say I convert all my 24 Rohirrim from a box to have axes. Is this convertion free or do I have to pay +1 point for every model, that didn't have an axe in it's "vanilla" state?

It's obvious to me, that they introduced this rule to prevent unfair builds like wood elves with axes for free and b) seems like the reasonable answer, but still, it's nowhere clearly stated in the (german) rulebook.

What do you think? Is there an official answer? I don't want to turn up at my next tournament with my completely converted ork army and pay +1 for everyone, just because I swapped an ork's sword for another ork's pickaxe.

Thanks in advance for your answers!
Beste Grüße,
Aldaron
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Swapping Weapon-Types
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:28 am 
Craftsman
Craftsman
Offline

Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:51 am
Posts: 489
Location: Arda, somewhere between Rivendell and the void.
Images: 2
Aldaron wrote:
Cheers!
I joined this forum many years ago but was following it quietly until now, so this is actually my first post :oops:

I recently purchased the "Pellenor Box" (finally) and already read through the rule book several times. Overall, I'm quite fond of the new rules (it totally made up for "the mess" that the Hobbit book felt like to me) but there's one tingeling question, I can't find an answer to:

It's regarding the "swapping weapons"-rule. In my german rule book it states on page 86 (so probabaly some/many pages earlier in the english version), something like "you may have changed the weapons of some models, they were delivered with, maybe because of aesthetic reasons, maybe because you wanted an advantage at the game"[...]"swapping a kind of weapon from the following list [list of different kinds of weapons] for another one of the same kind (one-handed, two-handed, ect.) costs 1 point extra".

I'm totally unsure, what they mean by that (but maybe it's just bad german translation and clearer in the english version). Does it mean

a) When you change the weapon of the original model GW produced, you have to pay +1 point, no matter what?

b) When you give the model a weapon, that's not originally an option in its profile, you pay +1 point?

E.g. an army of Rohan: Infantry may have swords or axes as handweapons. Let's say I convert all my 24 Rohirrim from a box to have axes. Is this convertion free or do I have to pay +1 point for every model, that didn't have an axe in it's "vanilla" state?

It's obvious to me, that they introduced this rule to prevent unfair builds like wood elves with axes for free and b) seems like the reasonable answer, but still, it's nowhere clearly stated in the (german) rulebook.

What do you think? Is there an official answer? I don't want to turn up at my next tournament with my completely converted ork army and pay +1 for everyone, just because I swapped an ork's sword for another ork's pickaxe.

Thanks in advance for your answers!
Beste Grüße,
Aldaron

In english it is stated as any weapon not listed on the profile. Also note that many tournaments require profile-only weapons. But an orc with a dagger or axe on the base profile can be converted to have either. Adding a mace, however, will require you to pay one point. Hope this helps. So b. 8) ;)

_________________
By all that you hold dear on this good Earth,
I bid you stand, men of the West!
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Swapping Weapon-Types
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:37 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:39 pm
Posts: 967
Location: The Old Dominion
Definitely b in the English book.

_________________
"Draw your sword with a heavy heart, but swing it with a heavy hand"
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Swapping Weapon-Types
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:18 am 
Wayfarer
Wayfarer
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:26 pm
Posts: 9
Thanks a lot, guys! :)
That's just the precise answer I needed (and hoped for). So, unfortunately, the german version seems to be flawed, as there's no mention of "weapon options" and just "weapons" in this specific section.

So this makes my 13 years old Ork army still playable. Every single model is converted, but not in an exotic style. All of the guys still got a handweapon, that's either sword, axe or pickaxe, so I'll be fine.

Thanks again, for your quick answer,
Aldaron
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: