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 Post subject: Re: Building a Moria Goblin Army
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:59 pm 
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Maybe drop a scout and take an extra goblin?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:08 pm 
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Kili wrote:
Maybe drop a scout and take an extra goblin?


If I take a scout away and add a goblin I have 51 models, which is over the limit?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:13 pm 
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Ow, forgot that :P Drop a Goblin and boost you wraith :)

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Give iy an extra Will point, I think.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:27 pm 
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Kili wrote:
Ow, forgot that :P Drop a Goblin and boost you wraith :)


okay, can you tell give me any recommendation on which 'Wraith it should be? and how I boost 'em etc? :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:41 pm 
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Well, if you take a normal wraith (regular, not named) they give you a basic model with not too much might will and fate. For 5points you can boost one of these three things with 1 each time. There is a maximum though.

The named Wraiths don't give you that option. You just get what they give you in the profile, but they are fully boosted I think :) I don't have any experience with wraiths of any kind, but I'm planning on getting the Shadow Lord to protect my Wargs/Berserkers/Isengard Troll/... There is an article on the GW-website about the nine wraiths, and also an article about some of the stats/point costs of some named wraiths.

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Kili wrote:
Well, if you take a normal wraith (regular, not named) they give you a basic model with not too much might will and fate. For 5points you can boost one of these three things with 1 each time. There is a maximum though.

The named Wraiths don't give you that option. You just get what they give you in the profile, but they are fully boosted I think :) I don't have any experience with wraiths of any kind, but I'm planning on getting the Shadow Lord to protect my Wargs/Berserkers/Isengard Troll/... There is an article on the GW-website about the nine wraiths, and also an article about some of the stats/point costs of some named wraiths.

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Thanks mate, i'll check it out. I think i'll just go with an unnamed Ringwraith, with it being my first army I don't think I need a 'big name' Ringwraith.

So it's:

1x Lurtz
1x Ringwraith
1x Cave Troll
23x Golbins
24 x Uruk-hai Scouts

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Ok, now you have exactly 50models, but you don't have a leader for the Moria side :)

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Kili wrote:
Ok, now you have exactly 50models, but you don't have a leader for the Moria side :)

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Durburz isn't allowed, is a goblin captain?

If so I could cut down to 24 Uruk-hai Scouts but say 18-20 Goblins?

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I don't play Moria myself, but I do think that a normal captain is allowed.

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Kili wrote:
I don't play Moria myself, but I do think that a normal captain is allowed.


Seems like he'd be the most fitting choice as leader, considering they don't have much heroes.

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Probably :)

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Would it be possible if you told me everyone who can ally with Isengard and Goblins, only if it doesn't take up much of your time!

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I'm not sure wether I can tell you :( If someone can maybe tell me if I can say that? If I can, I'll certainly do it :)

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Kili wrote:
I'm not sure wether I can tell you :( If someone can maybe tell me if I can say that? If I can, I'll certainly do it :)


I'm sorry, I don't understand, why can't you tell me? Does it break a rule or do you just not know?

Sorry, I confuse easily. :P

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Well, if there weren't any rules, we could post the rulebook online :) Sadly enough, there are rules and we can't tell all the Rules of the Games. I'm not sure wether I can tell this to you, since it is in the LoME book. If everybody would do this, GW would sell less copies of their book, and they don't want that. I don't know what I can tell and what I can't :(

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Kili wrote:
Well, if there weren't any rules, we could post the rulebook online :) Sadly enough, there are rules and we can't tell all the Rules of the Games. I'm not sure wether I can tell this to you, since it is in the LoME book. If everybody would do this, GW would sell less copies of their book, and they don't want that. I don't know what I can tell and what I can't :(

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Oh well, I don't want you going out and getting into trouble for me. :P

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Also the rules about allying are very specific, there are multiple isengard lists and multiple goblin lists, all of which have different allies, use an online army builder, there is a popular one which is posted all over this site:D
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SuicidalMarsbar wrote:
Also the rules about allying are very specific, there are multiple isengard lists and multiple goblin lists, all of which have different allies, use an online army builder, there is a popular one which is posted all over this site:D


I googled it and found the Lone Wolf Productions Army Builder. Is this the correct one?

EDIT: I used it and I don't have a license so I can only chose three units? :S

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 Post subject: Re: Building a Moria Goblin Army
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You should look for the lonelyknight's one :)

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