some warriors in the movie REALLY suck...

whafrog · **Posted:** Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:14 pm

imrail wrote:

And Eowyn is soooooo good. She kills a mumak with a blunt orc blade and a small sword. She kills the mumak where a dozen of armoured big, muscled riders failed... thats odd.

I don't think she kills it so much as hamstrings it...not that that's much better

donuthare · **Joined:** Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:48 am **Posts:** 205

rohan royal guards- just swing their swords at nothing when they ride down the causway.

i always wondered why that is yeh. and lurtz waits 15 minutes between each arrow on boromir. and noone else than aragorn sees the torchbearer

General Elessar · **Posted:** Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:23 am

imrail wrote:

And Eowyn is soooooo good. She kills a mumak with a blunt orc blade and a small sword. She kills the mumak where a dozen of armoured big, muscled riders failed... thats odd.

Agreed!

Captain Ingold · **Posted:** Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:17 am

imrail wrote:

Oh the soldier doesn't get killed, but a rider of rohan loses his sword when fighting against a mumakil.

I think that's Theoden or Eomer there, who tries to... cut off a tusk?

gambit025 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:52 am

Jamros:

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Did anyone ever see the bit in RotK where an orc jumps off a building roof and a WoMT opens his arms to catch him, after which, the orc bites his neck? Roflcopteresplosion.

Yeah, that was a bit wierd. He waits for a few seconds with his arms out ready to catch the orc - wouldn't you just punch it in the face? :roll:

Sharkai · **Posted:** Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:23 am

gambit025 wrote:

Jamros:

Quote:

Did anyone ever see the bit in RotK where an orc jumps off a building roof and a WoMT opens his arms to catch him, after which, the orc bites his neck? Roflcopteresplosion.

Yeah, that was a bit wierd. He waits for a few seconds with his arms out ready to catch the orc - wouldn't you just punch it in the face? :roll:

Or just let it fall and let it break its legs?

Anduril Blade of Kings · **Posted:** Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:47 pm

donuthare wrote:

rohan royal guards- just swing their swords at nothing when they ride down the causway.

i always wondered why that is yeh. and lurtz waits 15 minutes between each arrow on boromir. and noone else than aragorn sees the torchbearer

He waits less than fifteen seconds between shots...and that time probably because other uruks were blocking his shots (getting in his way), he was looking for Boromir to expose a vulnerable area, (i.e. heart, lungs) or some other reason.

I'm sure others besides Aragorn saw the torch, however most were too busy exchanging blows with Uruks to do anything about it.

However, I have some I don't think anyone's mentioned.....

The elves at Helm's Deep. During one scene there is a couple of elves holding their bows in an absolutely pathetic way, with their fingers in the wrong places. Will post pic if I can find one.

And one other one, who I suddenly can't remember.....

Lord Hurin · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:27 am

Jamros wrote:

Did anyone ever see the bit in RotK where an orc jumps off a building roof and a WoMT opens his arms to catch him, after which, the orc bites his neck? Roflcopteresplosion.

I believe that was part of the stunt; the receiving stuntman (the Gondorian) catching the oncoming stuntman (the Orc) so that the latter doesn't actually get hurt in real life. Is it something very noticeable, or is it background stuff?

Also, for the Uruks raising their pikes: that wasn't just "the sun" coming out, it was Gandalf useing Blinding Light to... well, blind his foes. They instinctively put their hands up to try and block the light. Orcs don't like the sun, remember.

Having said that, the garrison at Minas Tirith was portrayed very poorly. They should have been the most veteran and well-equipped mannish rank and file in the films, but they looked like fresh recruits. Also, as far as I can remember the Nazgul were just flying overhead shrieking and frightening them in the books. Only in the movies were Men of Gondor flung from catwalks and ledges by the Fell Beasts.

Jamros · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:19 am

Oh, its clearly part of a stunt, thats what I assumed. It would be quite dangerous to have an actor in heavy armor and make up jump from a ten foot roof onto another actor. But if memory serves, it was in the forefront of the shot; it was quite obvious and noticeable and just looked ridiculously odd

Lord Hurin · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:22 am

Jamros wrote:

Oh, its clearly part of a stunt, thats what I assumed. It would be quite dangerous to have an actor in heavy armor and make up jump from a ten foot roof onto another actor. But if memory serves, it was in the forefront of the shot; it was quite obvious and noticeable and just looked ridiculously odd

Ah, certainly not ideal. Such things are a necessary part of filmmaking, but should be left as background stuff where it's less noticeable.

General Elessar · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:49 pm

How about when Legolas climbs onto the Mumakil, the Haradrim jumps out on top of him, Legolas just leans to one side, and lets the Haradrim fall off. :rofl:

Dorthonion · **Posted:** Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:47 pm

I would wager that every 'epic' every made has pants acting/fight choreography going on in the background because, well, they are EXTRAS, guys. Not ninjas. Not swordmasters. A lot of the Galadhrim were picked for their thin physique - I believe many were students, from what I remember from eatching the extras on the EE DVD's. A lot of the Rohirrim were women; why? Because they were more into horse-riding.

We can all pick holes in scene after scene, fair enough.

But I bet the comedic value would be even higher if some of us were put in the same position... :lol:

General Elessar · **Posted:** Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:32 pm

Dorthonion wrote:

But I bet the comedic value would be even higher if some of us were put in the same position... :lol:

Yeah, lol. Like me as Hobbit: "why's that Hobbit as tall as Boromir?" :rofl:

Amarthadan · **Posted:** Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:01 pm

Hahaha yeah I noticed alot of those scenes too. :lol:

Still I think PJ has done an amazing job.

Rueben

ncea · **Posted:** Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:01 am

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lot of the Galadhrim were picked for their thin physique - I believe many were students, from what I remember from eatching the extras on the EE DVD's. A lot of the Rohirrim were women; why? Because they were more into horse-riding.

yeah they just picked random people to do stuff like that.. like they ran out of people to be warriors of rohan at the battle of helms deep that they ended up getting lots of maori boys and put them in the background. they called them the "brohai" i read it in this book that was at school..

General Elessar · **Posted:** Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:20 am

Dorthonion wrote:

I A lot of the Rohirrim were women; why? Because they were more into horse-riding.

Maybe all the Rohirrim women, not just Eowyn, secretly go to war... :-D

imrail · **Joined:** Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:24 pm **Posts:** 666

General Elessar wrote:

Dorthonion wrote:

I A lot of the Rohirrim were women; why? Because they were more into horse-riding.

Maybe all the Rohirrim women, not just Eowyn, secretly go to war... :-D

Hahaha, agreed!

General Elessar · **Posted:** Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:15 pm

Bad luck for the Witchking... :rofl:

Captain Ingold · **Posted:** Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:39 pm

While the men all hide at home? :wink:

Anyway, this thread is looking a bit derailed...

Erurainon the Trombonist · **Posted:** Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:14 pm

Jamros wrote:

Did anyone ever see the bit in RotK where an orc jumps off a building roof and a WoMT opens his arms to catch him, after which, the orc bites his neck? Roflcopteresplosion.

But seriously, I do love these movies.

Yeah, I'm always noticing that. He's like "Here orcy, I'll catch you!"

some warriors in the movie REALLY suck...

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