One Campaign to Rule Them All

TheFlameoftheWest · **Posted:** Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:43 am

Good morning!
And this certainly is a particularly good morning to be good on.
This post is a continuation of another thread I had started many ages of this world ago, before a change in careers and moving twice stalled my efforts. If you are interested in catching up, you can find it here: http://www.one-ring.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13243

The idea is to create a campaign using Lord of the Rings RISK as the Strategic Map and to play any resulting battles with the Strategy Battle Game. I am in the process of posting a finished, updated rulebook, and 4 decks of cards for each factions to use. For now, I would like to start with the first thing I truly consider FINISHED! :wink:

Taken from both the Hobbit Strategy Battle Game and by adapting many of the rules fromWar of the Ring, these are the generic Special Rules that I will use to update almost every profile in the game. This is in part to make very large games more practical, and also to make heroes more epic so that they could feasibly survive this campaign. So, for all of you who like to tweak existing profiles, this is the post in which I ask for your input.

Without further ado, here are the generic Special Rules.

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As a sample, here is my first army list available for in the Campaign when fighting from the Stronghold of Minas Tirith. This should give you an idea of how I plan on incorporating some of the War of the Ring adapted rules, and as you notice I've given some profiles a bump.

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TheFlameoftheWest · **Posted:** Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:26 am

To make any further posts easier to understand, here is the LOTR RISK board, or as I may refer to it as, the "Strategic/Campaign Map"

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In effect, the Minas Tirith list above represents my attempt to adjust profiles for our campaign and incorporate the best of War of the Ring while staying in the SBG. I will appreciate feedback as I will have to create army lists for:
-Minas Tirith (done), Osgiliath, Pelargir, Dol Amroth and Erech
-Helm's Deep, Rauros Falls, and Edoras
-Isengard, Mines of Moria, Gates of Moria, Mt. Gundabad, Carn Dum
-City of the Corsairs of Umbar, The Haradrim Encampments
-Minas Morgul, The Black Gate, Barad-Dur
-Dagorlad, Dol Guldur, The Easterling Encampments
-Rivendell, Lothlorien, Harlond, Grey Havens, Elven Halls of Mirkwood
-Erebor, Hobbiton, Annuminas

Perhaps this could be a bit of an update to the "By the Book" discussions as well...?

RandolftheRed · **Joined:** Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:21 pm **Posts:** 34

I love the idea I've been thinking of doing this for a while but never got around to it.

WhoelsebutHaldir · **Posted:** Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:19 am

Would you want help writing some of the army lists?
Because ide be happy to draft a lothlorien one up for you.

LordElrond · **Posted:** Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:42 am

If Erestor has Bane of Kings, can he re-roll his re-rolls?

TheFlameoftheWest · **Posted:** Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:10 pm

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Would you want help writing some of the army lists?
Because ide be happy to draft a lothlorien one up for you.

I'd love any help I can get with it. Feel free to debate some of my choices as well.
I chose Minas Tirith as the first to post because the common troops required very little change, and the heroes are pretty easy to add the WotR rules to as well.
Ambusher went to Faramir, I gave Boromir Steadfast, Inspiring Hero and Touched by Destiny were added to King Elessar, Denethor was given Overlord (Gondor) and a Might point to enable him to use it.
Other than that, Pippin as Guard of the Citadel got some boosts (mostly from his profile in Scouring of the Shire), the Guards of the Fountain Court were given Stalwart and an extra attack (I will probably do that to make one 'Super Elite' warrior profile in almost every faction).

TheFlameoftheWest · **Posted:** Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:15 am

Following my Minas Tirith list (which I have updated with a profile to represent the Ecthelion Guard from the WotR Battlehosts expansion, here I present the army list for Osgiliath. Several notable changes have been made so feel free to give me feedback on them.
First, you will notice that I have created profiles for a Ranger of Ithilien Captain. I have always felt GW should have made a model and profile for this, and on the game board i will represent them with Rangers of the North.
Second, I have done away with the 'Ithilien Guards'. It just seems foolish to me that a human in heavy armor, bearing a shield, could fight effectively and ignore all woodland terrain. Instead, I have made the 'Osgiliath Veterans' the base troops of this army list. Their Loyal to the Captains special rule has been expanded to incorporate Cirion & Osgiliath Veteran Captains as well as Boromir and Faramir- I will use regular WoMT for the basic troops and the existing Osgiliath Veteran models will be used as their captains.

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LordElrond · **Posted:** Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:50 am

Nice profiles, but spears are always 1 pt, even for heroes

TheFlameoftheWest · **Posted:** Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:04 am

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Nice profiles, but spears are always 1 pt, even for heroes

Thanks, I edited the lists I've already posted. I hope everyone likes my ideas for making the Osgiliath army list more varied than what is currently available (and it allows you to use the same WoMT in several different paint schemes & profiles).

The next I will post will be for Pelargir, Dol Amroth, and Erech. The question I've been asking myself I'll now ask you: Should the fiefdom troops other than Knights of Dol Amroth be 'nerfed to Fight 3?

LordElrond · **Posted:** Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:14 am

TheFlameoftheWest · **Posted:** Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:35 am

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No.

Ok. I just always found it strange that the reserve citizen-soldiers of Gondor's Fiefdoms had a higher Fight value than that of its professional army. I suppose they're not as well-equipped in terms of armor and have fewer options in heroes.

Hodush · **Posted:** Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:21 pm

I agree, No. If my memory is correct it had the majority of Gondor's population, so they aren't just a bunch of peasants.

This looks great, good work!

TheFlameoftheWest · **Posted:** Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:19 pm

And here is the first list of Gondor's fiefdoms, Pelargir.

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Followed by Dol Amroth; you'll notice I made some changes to the Man-at-Arms of Dol Amroth. This is to make fielding them more financially practical. To represent these units, I will probably paint Numenorian warriors with a Swan of Dol Amroth color scheme...although I've always felt that your gaming points and real-life currency would be better spent buying more Knights of DA rather than the Man-at-Arms.
By proxying, it automatically gives them a wider range of wargear options- namely, the Numenorians' shields, bows (spear models will still be considered armed with a pike or converted with a longer spear). They are, after all, Men-at-Arms and have similar military discipline as a knight, but not the same social status.

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Lastly for the fiefdoms, The Stone of Erech.

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TheFlameoftheWest · **Posted:** Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:07 am

I feel that perhaps I should have posted this in a different way; that maybe I didn't really leave room for feedback and that perhaps in posting my work on complete army lists I may brush too close with breaking some One Ring policies on point values.

I am really looking for feedback on:
1. The idea to utilize some of the generic War of the Ring rules into the SBG (I'm not so sure that WotR will ever see another update for the new Hobbit models :roll:

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2. The way in which I have worded these rules. I'll post the rules in question here for your reference.

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3. Any models whose profiles should be revisited or altered in any way... and how we/I could do so (Theoden springs to mind and I do have a re-worked profile for him, I've already posted my changes to the Guards of the Fountain Court, and similarly scrapped the Sons of Eorl in favor of boosting the Rohan Royal Guard.)

Feel free to ask questions or discuss. I know this may lack some structure as of right now, but I'm just picking back up on this idea of mine after lots of life changes forced me out of the hobby for awhile- but the Hobbit has definitely got me back! :gandalf:

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